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	<title>Comments on: Objects in Space: Black masculinity through the paradigm of whitemale lust</title>
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		<title>By: Weltea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weltea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 11:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just finished watching Firefly today and now I&#039;ve read your post and really I couldn&#039;t agree more. With everything.

The Saffron thing is still fresh in my mind and that was it what made me notice how,for lack of a better word;weird that show is.
I know different people are attracted to different things but when she came aboard she didn&#039;t even fit the western standard for attractiveness. Aside from the fact that her submissiveness is attractive to Mal,Jayne and even Wash the thing that really sickened me was that her behaviour was that of a scared child. She may had the body of an adult but when you are attracted to someone with the mind-set of a child that&#039;s just as sick as when you&#039;re attracted to an actual child.

A little of topic:
I&#039;d really like to know if you watched Charmed and if so what you thought of it (I&#039;m asking here because on this site I can&#039;t see whether or not you have a tag for it.)&#039;Cause I always thought that for a women-centric show it was extremely misogynistic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just finished watching Firefly today and now I&#8217;ve read your post and really I couldn&#8217;t agree more. With everything.</p>
<p>The Saffron thing is still fresh in my mind and that was it what made me notice how,for lack of a better word;weird that show is.<br />
I know different people are attracted to different things but when she came aboard she didn&#8217;t even fit the western standard for attractiveness. Aside from the fact that her submissiveness is attractive to Mal,Jayne and even Wash the thing that really sickened me was that her behaviour was that of a scared child. She may had the body of an adult but when you are attracted to someone with the mind-set of a child that&#8217;s just as sick as when you&#8217;re attracted to an actual child.</p>
<p>A little of topic:<br />
I&#8217;d really like to know if you watched Charmed and if so what you thought of it (I&#8217;m asking here because on this site I can&#8217;t see whether or not you have a tag for it.)&#8217;Cause I always thought that for a women-centric show it was extremely misogynistic.</p>
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		<title>By: allecto</title>
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		<dc:creator>allecto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 01:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Brenda. I&#039;m glad it made you look at the series in a different way. 

Urgh! I couldn&#039;t read through the conversation that you linked to. That much woman-hatred makes me want to throw up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Brenda. I&#8217;m glad it made you look at the series in a different way. </p>
<p>Urgh! I couldn&#8217;t read through the conversation that you linked to. That much woman-hatred makes me want to throw up.</p>
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		<title>By: Brenda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 13:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really liked your articles, im ashamed to admit that i never thought about these things that way, it was an eyeopener for me!
You should take a look on this forum, it&#039;s disgusting, it&#039;s about this law is being passed in Afghanistan that allows wife rape, the majority of male posters seem to think it&#039;s funny.
http://www.sociocide.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1405492#post1405492</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really liked your articles, im ashamed to admit that i never thought about these things that way, it was an eyeopener for me!<br />
You should take a look on this forum, it&#8217;s disgusting, it&#8217;s about this law is being passed in Afghanistan that allows wife rape, the majority of male posters seem to think it&#8217;s funny.<br />
<a href="http://www.sociocide.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1405492#post1405492" rel="nofollow">http://www.sociocide.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1405492#post1405492</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Alice, the reason I deleted your comment was because you weren&#039;t responding to anything I had actually written. Did you even read this post before you commented? Where did I say that the part had been written for a Black actor? Where did I say that a whitemale couldn&#039;t have played this character? I didn&#039;t say either of these things. Read and respond to something I have actually written and I will publish your comment. 

Oh, but if it is more apologies for the racism of white men then I wouldn&#039;t bother. There are plenty of places on the internet where you can justify Joss Whedon&#039;s racism and vilify me. I don&#039;t allow that on my blog. &lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Alice, the reason I deleted your comment was because you weren&#8217;t responding to anything I had actually written. Did you even read this post before you commented? Where did I say that the part had been written for a Black actor? Where did I say that a whitemale couldn&#8217;t have played this character? I didn&#8217;t say either of these things. Read and respond to something I have actually written and I will publish your comment. </p>
<p>Oh, but if it is more apologies for the racism of white men then I wouldn&#8217;t bother. There are plenty of places on the internet where you can justify Joss Whedon&#8217;s racism and vilify me. I don&#8217;t allow that on my blog. </b></p>
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		<title>By: Mina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was an interesting perspective, and I would wonder if Joss would have done the same exact thing with a white man as Early, or if he played merely on sterotypes to enhance the show.

I&#039;m mostly confused with the part you talk about here: &quot;INARA: You can still walk away from this. I know you’re tired.&quot; In the episode, the watcher can tell that Inara is attempting to use a more subtle ploy, which she probably learned in The Academy, that would get Early to back off. He hits her because he realizes that he could very well be lured into this subtle mindgame. I think it shows the weakness of men that they can be lured, and it shows that Early knows this is a man&#039;s weakness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was an interesting perspective, and I would wonder if Joss would have done the same exact thing with a white man as Early, or if he played merely on sterotypes to enhance the show.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m mostly confused with the part you talk about here: &#8220;INARA: You can still walk away from this. I know you’re tired.&#8221; In the episode, the watcher can tell that Inara is attempting to use a more subtle ploy, which she probably learned in The Academy, that would get Early to back off. He hits her because he realizes that he could very well be lured into this subtle mindgame. I think it shows the weakness of men that they can be lured, and it shows that Early knows this is a man&#8217;s weakness.</p>
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		<title>By: groundhog22</title>
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		<dc:creator>groundhog22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been reading your posts about firefly/serenity, and they make me glad that I&#039;m in a good relationship.  Unfortunately, I see many people who are in bad relationships all around me, and I believe that it is due to this oversexual culture that we live in.  Honestly, it&#039;s like a regression to a couple centuries ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been reading your posts about firefly/serenity, and they make me glad that I&#8217;m in a good relationship.  Unfortunately, I see many people who are in bad relationships all around me, and I believe that it is due to this oversexual culture that we live in.  Honestly, it&#8217;s like a regression to a couple centuries ago.</p>
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		<title>By: fop</title>
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		<dc:creator>fop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No prob allecto.    It amused me to no end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No prob allecto.    It amused me to no end.</p>
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		<title>By: allecto</title>
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		<dc:creator>allecto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 22:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SQUEEEE!!! I&#039;m famous. Or perhaps infamous is a better way of putting it!!! Thanks for the link fop. It is always nice to see that there are *some* women out there who have their eyes open.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SQUEEEE!!! I&#8217;m famous. Or perhaps infamous is a better way of putting it!!! Thanks for the link fop. It is always nice to see that there are *some* women out there who have their eyes open.</p>
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		<title>By: fop</title>
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		<dc:creator>fop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 03:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just to tell you  (and perhaps you have been informed.  Who knows?)  that apparently you&#039;re fucking famous

http://www.cracked.com/article_16587_hollywoods-5-saddest-attempts-at-feminism.html


they quote you in the bit about River tam at the bottom.   Like I said, maybe you&#039;ve heard this already, but maybe you haven&#039;t.   

You&#039;re CLEARLY famous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just to tell you  (and perhaps you have been informed.  Who knows?)  that apparently you&#8217;re fucking famous</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cracked.com/article_16587_hollywoods-5-saddest-attempts-at-feminism.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cracked.com/article_16587_hollywoods-5-saddest-attempts-at-feminism.html</a></p>
<p>they quote you in the bit about River tam at the bottom.   Like I said, maybe you&#8217;ve heard this already, but maybe you haven&#8217;t.   </p>
<p>You&#8217;re CLEARLY famous.</p>
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		<title>By: Dissenter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dissenter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 05:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe Chris is referring to the episode where Warren hypnotises his ex-girlfriend (can&#039;t remember how, some kind of magic device I think) and puts her in a skimpy waitress outfit, with the intention of turning her into his sex slave. Before he really gets underway, though, she wakes up from the trance, and says something like, &quot;this isn&#039;t some sick little fantasy, this is rape.&quot; Then she tries to escape, and Warren kills her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe Chris is referring to the episode where Warren hypnotises his ex-girlfriend (can&#8217;t remember how, some kind of magic device I think) and puts her in a skimpy waitress outfit, with the intention of turning her into his sex slave. Before he really gets underway, though, she wakes up from the trance, and says something like, &#8220;this isn&#8217;t some sick little fantasy, this is rape.&#8221; Then she tries to escape, and Warren kills her.</p>
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