Comments on: Joss Whedon and Jean-Paul Sartre: the Wanker Phallosophers http://allecto.wordpress.com/2008/07/06/joss-whedon-and-jean-paul-sartre-the-wanker-phallosophers/ from the Infernal Dark, where the Dread Sisters have their place... Fri, 06 Nov 2009 06:30:47 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: The 17th Carnival of Radical Feminists « Spinning Spinsters http://allecto.wordpress.com/2008/07/06/joss-whedon-and-jean-paul-sartre-the-wanker-phallosophers/#comment-1833 The 17th Carnival of Radical Feminists « Spinning Spinsters Tue, 10 Mar 2009 03:08:09 +0000 http://allecto.wordpress.com/?p=114#comment-1833 [...] of Gorgon Poisons, in another of her denouncements of Joss Whedon, brings us Joss Whedon and Jean-Paul Sartre: The Wanker Phallosophers, discussing the narcissistic shallowness of male, patriarchal [...] [...] of Gorgon Poisons, in another of her denouncements of Joss Whedon, brings us Joss Whedon and Jean-Paul Sartre: The Wanker Phallosophers, discussing the narcissistic shallowness of male, patriarchal [...]

]]> By: Seventeenth Carnival of Radical Feminists « Carnival of Radical Feminists http://allecto.wordpress.com/2008/07/06/joss-whedon-and-jean-paul-sartre-the-wanker-phallosophers/#comment-1212 Seventeenth Carnival of Radical Feminists « Carnival of Radical Feminists Sun, 24 Aug 2008 02:08:20 +0000 http://allecto.wordpress.com/?p=114#comment-1212 [...] of Gorgon Poisons, in another of her denouncements of Joss Whedon, brings us Joss Whedon and Jean-Paul Sartre: The Wanker Phallosophers, discussing the narcissistic shallowness of male, patriarchal [...] [...] of Gorgon Poisons, in another of her denouncements of Joss Whedon, brings us Joss Whedon and Jean-Paul Sartre: The Wanker Phallosophers, discussing the narcissistic shallowness of male, patriarchal [...]

]]> By: allecto http://allecto.wordpress.com/2008/07/06/joss-whedon-and-jean-paul-sartre-the-wanker-phallosophers/#comment-1186 allecto Mon, 18 Aug 2008 04:42:04 +0000 http://allecto.wordpress.com/?p=114#comment-1186 Lol. Yeah, that about sums it up prof. I've added you to my blogroll 'cause you're cool. :) Lol. Yeah, that about sums it up prof. I’ve added you to my blogroll ’cause you’re cool. :)

]]> By: profacero http://allecto.wordpress.com/2008/07/06/joss-whedon-and-jean-paul-sartre-the-wanker-phallosophers/#comment-1184 profacero Sun, 17 Aug 2008 23:25:13 +0000 http://allecto.wordpress.com/?p=114#comment-1184 Yes. I used to think I was missing something about many of these classic philosophers - there had to be more to what they were saying than there seemed to be! Then I figured out that, well, no. Yes. I used to think I was missing something about many of these classic philosophers – there had to be more to what they were saying than there seemed to be! Then I figured out that, well, no.

]]> By: allecto http://allecto.wordpress.com/2008/07/06/joss-whedon-and-jean-paul-sartre-the-wanker-phallosophers/#comment-1069 allecto Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:16:12 +0000 http://allecto.wordpress.com/?p=114#comment-1069 Woman, You are awesome and that comment is just awesome. Thank you for that flash of brilliance. I totally agree. Woman,

You are awesome and that comment is just awesome. Thank you for that flash of brilliance. I totally agree.

]]> By: Woman http://allecto.wordpress.com/2008/07/06/joss-whedon-and-jean-paul-sartre-the-wanker-phallosophers/#comment-1068 Woman Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:02:15 +0000 http://allecto.wordpress.com/?p=114#comment-1068 I always thought that Wash is Joss' Male Artist effigy in the <i>Firefly</i> series. Wash, that creative fun-loving humorous guy who was large-minded and progressive enough to bed with a Black woman and let her fulfill every fetishistic cultural stereotype white men have of Black women. Militant! Hawt! Be kickin' yo' ass after polishin' you off! Still ultimately for sex! He pines for her subservience, constantly goading her for it, testing her for weakness, which is in itself a passive-aggressive threat. And note that the Wash character is always cast as weak compared to the other more Manly Men who do important plot things like killing people and beating up women. He is pathetic in that episode where he rivals with Mal over his Black woman. In the movie, Joss kills him. Why? So Zoe can go all postal and decide that she has nothing left after her white man is gone now, and so she doesn't mind being raped and eaten. How touching. But it's so sad that the artist dies. The sweet, harmless, humorous creative character who let his wife have more leash than most. White male wankery. I always thought that Wash is Joss’ Male Artist effigy in the Firefly series. Wash, that creative fun-loving humorous guy who was large-minded and progressive enough to bed with a Black woman and let her fulfill every fetishistic cultural stereotype white men have of Black women. Militant! Hawt! Be kickin’ yo’ ass after polishin’ you off! Still ultimately for sex! He pines for her subservience, constantly goading her for it, testing her for weakness, which is in itself a passive-aggressive threat. And note that the Wash character is always cast as weak compared to the other more Manly Men who do important plot things like killing people and beating up women. He is pathetic in that episode where he rivals with Mal over his Black woman.

In the movie, Joss kills him. Why? So Zoe can go all postal and decide that she has nothing left after her white man is gone now, and so she doesn’t mind being raped and eaten. How touching. But it’s so sad that the artist dies. The sweet, harmless, humorous creative character who let his wife have more leash than most.

White male wankery.

]]> By: allecto http://allecto.wordpress.com/2008/07/06/joss-whedon-and-jean-paul-sartre-the-wanker-phallosophers/#comment-1034 allecto Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:57:00 +0000 http://allecto.wordpress.com/?p=114#comment-1034 Hi Linda, Thanks for the praise. I haven't seen the Dr. Horrible thing nor do I know anything about it. But now you've piqued my interest and I will find out. I am having a lot of fun writing these posts on Joss's work so if I hate the Dr. Horrible thing enough I will likely want to write on it. :) Hi Linda,

Thanks for the praise. I haven’t seen the Dr. Horrible thing nor do I know anything about it. But now you’ve piqued my interest and I will find out. I am having a lot of fun writing these posts on Joss’s work so if I hate the Dr. Horrible thing enough I will likely want to write on it. :)

]]> By: Linda. http://allecto.wordpress.com/2008/07/06/joss-whedon-and-jean-paul-sartre-the-wanker-phallosophers/#comment-1032 Linda. Fri, 18 Jul 2008 02:43:24 +0000 http://allecto.wordpress.com/?p=114#comment-1032 Hi, first time commenting. I really enjoyed this post Allecto, you have some really good insights into the way men's minds work and the misogyny in many works of fiction/philosophy. Or Phallosophy, which as you say is a much better word for it. I'm glad that you have the courage and skill to tell the truth about Joss Whedon and make these points on why he is not a feminist, despite that wide misconception. I know you must be pretty busy and so this is explicitly a question not a suggestion, are you going to deconstruct that Dr Horrible thing that he put on the internet? Hi, first time commenting. I really enjoyed this post Allecto, you have some really good insights into the way men’s minds work and the misogyny in many works of fiction/philosophy. Or Phallosophy, which as you say is a much better word for it. I’m glad that you have the courage and skill to tell the truth about Joss Whedon and make these points on why he is not a feminist, despite that wide misconception. I know you must be pretty busy and so this is explicitly a question not a suggestion, are you going to deconstruct that Dr Horrible thing that he put on the internet?

]]> By: Lara http://allecto.wordpress.com/2008/07/06/joss-whedon-and-jean-paul-sartre-the-wanker-phallosophers/#comment-1022 Lara Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:02:02 +0000 http://allecto.wordpress.com/?p=114#comment-1022 Yeahh, you've got a point Dissenter. It's scary when these guys are both clever and big wankers. By the way, Allecto, I do not mean at all to interrupt the thread, but I wanted to invite you to my new blog: http://rychousmama.wordpress.com It’s barely a day old, but I will be adding new posts to it probably every few days :) Yeahh, you’ve got a point Dissenter. It’s scary when these guys are both clever and big wankers.

By the way, Allecto, I do not mean at all to interrupt the thread, but I wanted to invite you to my new blog:

http://rychousmama.wordpress.com

It’s barely a day old, but I will be adding new posts to it probably every few days :)

]]> By: demonista http://allecto.wordpress.com/2008/07/06/joss-whedon-and-jean-paul-sartre-the-wanker-phallosophers/#comment-1013 demonista Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:33:38 +0000 http://allecto.wordpress.com/?p=114#comment-1013 YEEEAAAHHH, allecto!!! (calms down) I'm overjoyed to have a fellow cuntspeaker on board! I remember asking in fb and my lj about it, and the three repliers to it shot me down. But I remember you replying to my bringing it up (in your old lj)--so I'm glad that you've read the wonderful Jane Caputi now! I also highly recommend the two books of hers I've read: The Age of Sex Crime and Goddesses and Monsters. But I can hardly expect you to get right on it, considering some authors have been on my "to read" list for 6 years! You should do an anthology, too :) YEEEAAAHHH, allecto!!!

(calms down) I’m overjoyed to have a fellow cuntspeaker on board! I remember asking in fb and my lj about it, and the three repliers to it shot me down. But I remember you replying to my bringing it up (in your old lj)–so I’m glad that you’ve read the wonderful Jane Caputi now! I also highly recommend the two books of hers I’ve read: The Age of Sex Crime and Goddesses and Monsters. But I can hardly expect you to get right on it, considering some authors have been on my “to read” list for 6 years!

You should do an anthology, too :)

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