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		<title>By: brittany</title>
		<link>http://allecto.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/gardasil-women-hurt-by-medicine/#comment-1718</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>omg i just got those shots and nothing like that happened to me but i still have one shot ahead of me and now i am relly scared to get it now but the first shot and the second shot did nothing to me so are u ok now????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>omg i just got those shots and nothing like that happened to me but i still have one shot ahead of me and now i am relly scared to get it now but the first shot and the second shot did nothing to me so are u ok now????</p>
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		<title>By: allecto</title>
		<link>http://allecto.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/gardasil-women-hurt-by-medicine/#comment-1485</link>
		<dc:creator>allecto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 22:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go you Michaela! Knowledge is indeed power. It is good that you did your research before going along with what the doctors tell you. Thank you for the information about the CSA test. It sounds a lot less invasive than a pap smear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go you Michaela! Knowledge is indeed power. It is good that you did your research before going along with what the doctors tell you. Thank you for the information about the CSA test. It sounds a lot less invasive than a pap smear.</p>
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		<title>By: Michaela</title>
		<link>http://allecto.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/gardasil-women-hurt-by-medicine/#comment-1482</link>
		<dc:creator>Michaela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Women need to be informed - not fall into line like sheep...
The current cervical screening campaign does not differentiate between a couple who were virgins and are in an exclusive relationship and a woman who is high risk - that&#039;s ridiculous...
Many Drs go into hysterics if you say you&#039;re not having smears or even question the need...
My husband &amp; I were virgins - no one else involved - we haven&#039;t been exposed to HPV and I don&#039;t need smear tests.
I eventually sought advice from a top female gyno to get the GP&#039;s off my back.
Knowledge is power!
Some good news for those of you infected with HPV and having smear tests - a blood test is on the way to replace the smear - it&#039;s called the CSA Test - Cervical Specific Antigen.  The current smear testing is about 70% reliable - this blood test will be close to 100%...
I&#039;ve read that some doctors and pathologists may resist this Test - it will do away with the need for smears and costly pathology - this Test is much cheaper, straight forward and more reliable.
Search the internet using the full name of the Test and you&#039;ll find some information from the Cervius PL site and Medicine &amp; Man...
Good luck everyone...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Women need to be informed &#8211; not fall into line like sheep&#8230;<br />
The current cervical screening campaign does not differentiate between a couple who were virgins and are in an exclusive relationship and a woman who is high risk &#8211; that&#8217;s ridiculous&#8230;<br />
Many Drs go into hysterics if you say you&#8217;re not having smears or even question the need&#8230;<br />
My husband &amp; I were virgins &#8211; no one else involved &#8211; we haven&#8217;t been exposed to HPV and I don&#8217;t need smear tests.<br />
I eventually sought advice from a top female gyno to get the GP&#8217;s off my back.<br />
Knowledge is power!<br />
Some good news for those of you infected with HPV and having smear tests &#8211; a blood test is on the way to replace the smear &#8211; it&#8217;s called the CSA Test &#8211; Cervical Specific Antigen.  The current smear testing is about 70% reliable &#8211; this blood test will be close to 100%&#8230;<br />
I&#8217;ve read that some doctors and pathologists may resist this Test &#8211; it will do away with the need for smears and costly pathology &#8211; this Test is much cheaper, straight forward and more reliable.<br />
Search the internet using the full name of the Test and you&#8217;ll find some information from the Cervius PL site and Medicine &amp; Man&#8230;<br />
Good luck everyone&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: allecto</title>
		<link>http://allecto.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/gardasil-women-hurt-by-medicine/#comment-647</link>
		<dc:creator>allecto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 08:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yay, go Judy. You are so awesome woman. Thank you for leaving these beautiful life-affirming/spritual/liberationist tracts here. You are so inspiring. Thank &lt;em&gt;you&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yay, go Judy. You are so awesome woman. Thank you for leaving these beautiful life-affirming/spritual/liberationist tracts here. You are so inspiring. Thank <em>you</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: Judy Best</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judy Best</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 00:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because the patriarchal &quot;values&quot; of profit (and woman-hating)have contaminated &quot;science&quot; to the point that it is up for grabs in many areas (wimmins&#039; health especially), with results skewed according to who&#039;s buying the research, we &quot;trust&quot; so-called &quot;medical science&quot; to our peril.  Ditto, Allecto, &quot;male supremacist science truly despicable.&quot;  

Baby formula company &quot;science&quot; has notoriously been anti-woman, anti-child.  Much of the bogus pharmaceutical harms to women never become refuted or discussed in the press because of big pharma&#039;s legal disclaimers (the fine print and rapid-speak now being used on TV to follow the glowing adverts about the drugs&#039; supposed benefits).  Moreover, the US legal system has taken a global, multi-national corporate lead in  shrouding the drug-company abuses in settlement confidentiality with court approval.  I&#039;ve worked behind the scenes (long past) under the shroud of confidentiality in mass-tort drug/RX cases.  I have on good authority that it&#039;s still going on; a neighbor works for a mass-tort law firm.   

I wouldn&#039;t willingly take a prescription drug if you gave it to me with red roses accompanying. Nobody talks much about the flesh-eating bacteria killing people in hospitals, but another friend is a RN who works in a hospital and it&#039;s definitely going on ---  the multi-decade over-use of antibiotics prescribed by MDs wanting to seem like major deities has resulted in killer bacteria capable of rapid mutation to beat the docs&#039; drugs. 

I&#039;m well into my 50&#039;s and haven&#039;t let an allopathic physician get near my body for 20 years.  And I&#039;m the healthiest person my age I know.  Gardasil be damned.  And no offense intended, Jeremiad. I truly hope you have no ill effects of any vaccine or other drugs, and my hope is for you to have more information for the future. (Interesting name, Jeremiad; suggests you enjoy discourse of this type.)    

It&#039;s deeply difficult to face the huge extent to which we&#039;re being lied to on a consistent basis by the &quot;establishment,&quot; and it took me many decades to be able to face it and find my own way with the supportive words of global sisters like Allecto.  

I couldn&#039;t accept the patriarchal watering down via man-made &quot;faith&quot; to trump the fear of facing what evils regularly operate under patriarchy, but eventually I found the Great Mother, Her Dark Cauldron, and made a feminist peace with Christianity (finding the Mother and the feminist Wisdom of Christ) as my faith tradition.  Allecto&#039;s writing has hugely helped to confirm the spiritual faith that carries me.  How she&#039;s become so staunch a women&#039;s liberationist in young adulthood impresses me with great joy whenever I come to visit this blog.  

Let me take this opportunity to thank you directly, Allecto, and all who come to converse here.  May we be blessed.

Thank you, Allecto, and thank you, too, Jeremiad, for being the catalyst for discussion that may help more women everywhere to break freer of the patriarchal abuses to our minds, spirits and bodies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because the patriarchal &#8220;values&#8221; of profit (and woman-hating)have contaminated &#8220;science&#8221; to the point that it is up for grabs in many areas (wimmins&#8217; health especially), with results skewed according to who&#8217;s buying the research, we &#8220;trust&#8221; so-called &#8220;medical science&#8221; to our peril.  Ditto, Allecto, &#8220;male supremacist science truly despicable.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Baby formula company &#8220;science&#8221; has notoriously been anti-woman, anti-child.  Much of the bogus pharmaceutical harms to women never become refuted or discussed in the press because of big pharma&#8217;s legal disclaimers (the fine print and rapid-speak now being used on TV to follow the glowing adverts about the drugs&#8217; supposed benefits).  Moreover, the US legal system has taken a global, multi-national corporate lead in  shrouding the drug-company abuses in settlement confidentiality with court approval.  I&#8217;ve worked behind the scenes (long past) under the shroud of confidentiality in mass-tort drug/RX cases.  I have on good authority that it&#8217;s still going on; a neighbor works for a mass-tort law firm.   </p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t willingly take a prescription drug if you gave it to me with red roses accompanying. Nobody talks much about the flesh-eating bacteria killing people in hospitals, but another friend is a RN who works in a hospital and it&#8217;s definitely going on &#8212;  the multi-decade over-use of antibiotics prescribed by MDs wanting to seem like major deities has resulted in killer bacteria capable of rapid mutation to beat the docs&#8217; drugs. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m well into my 50&#8217;s and haven&#8217;t let an allopathic physician get near my body for 20 years.  And I&#8217;m the healthiest person my age I know.  Gardasil be damned.  And no offense intended, Jeremiad. I truly hope you have no ill effects of any vaccine or other drugs, and my hope is for you to have more information for the future. (Interesting name, Jeremiad; suggests you enjoy discourse of this type.)    </p>
<p>It&#8217;s deeply difficult to face the huge extent to which we&#8217;re being lied to on a consistent basis by the &#8220;establishment,&#8221; and it took me many decades to be able to face it and find my own way with the supportive words of global sisters like Allecto.  </p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t accept the patriarchal watering down via man-made &#8220;faith&#8221; to trump the fear of facing what evils regularly operate under patriarchy, but eventually I found the Great Mother, Her Dark Cauldron, and made a feminist peace with Christianity (finding the Mother and the feminist Wisdom of Christ) as my faith tradition.  Allecto&#8217;s writing has hugely helped to confirm the spiritual faith that carries me.  How she&#8217;s become so staunch a women&#8217;s liberationist in young adulthood impresses me with great joy whenever I come to visit this blog.  </p>
<p>Let me take this opportunity to thank you directly, Allecto, and all who come to converse here.  May we be blessed.</p>
<p>Thank you, Allecto, and thank you, too, Jeremiad, for being the catalyst for discussion that may help more women everywhere to break freer of the patriarchal abuses to our minds, spirits and bodies.</p>
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		<title>By: allecto</title>
		<link>http://allecto.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/gardasil-women-hurt-by-medicine/#comment-638</link>
		<dc:creator>allecto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 06:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if you had no immediate side effects, you may yet develop them later. Also there have been cases with the HPV vaccine where a young woman, who has never tested positive to HPV, developed HPV a year after having the vaccine. There is no proof that the vaccine works against HPV. There is even less proof that it prevents cancer. Take care jeremiad. I find white, male supremacist science truly despicable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if you had no immediate side effects, you may yet develop them later. Also there have been cases with the HPV vaccine where a young woman, who has never tested positive to HPV, developed HPV a year after having the vaccine. There is no proof that the vaccine works against HPV. There is even less proof that it prevents cancer. Take care jeremiad. I find white, male supremacist science truly despicable.</p>
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		<title>By: _jeremiad</title>
		<link>http://allecto.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/gardasil-women-hurt-by-medicine/#comment-632</link>
		<dc:creator>_jeremiad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 04:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Warning: I&#039;m about to post a dissenting opinion that many will think is profoundly lacking in self-awareness.

I got the Gardasil vaccine last year, and I&#039;m glad I did.  I had no side effects.  None.  My bloodstream carries HPV antibodies now.  It&#039;s all groovy.

As a sexually active bisexual woman, a vaccine to protect me against HPV just made sense to me.  It&#039;s part of me being responsible for my own sexuality.

I disagree with some of what people are saying above (for example, regarding clincal drug testing or cell phones causing cancer) because I believe in science and I prefer to have substantiated evidence for my claims.

However, I do agree that the current advertising campaign for the vaccine reinforces compulsory heterosexuality and, honestly, makes women out to be &quot;sluts.&quot;  If males were vaccinated too, the most virulent strains of HPV could conceivably be wiped out in a generation or two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warning: I&#8217;m about to post a dissenting opinion that many will think is profoundly lacking in self-awareness.</p>
<p>I got the Gardasil vaccine last year, and I&#8217;m glad I did.  I had no side effects.  None.  My bloodstream carries HPV antibodies now.  It&#8217;s all groovy.</p>
<p>As a sexually active bisexual woman, a vaccine to protect me against HPV just made sense to me.  It&#8217;s part of me being responsible for my own sexuality.</p>
<p>I disagree with some of what people are saying above (for example, regarding clincal drug testing or cell phones causing cancer) because I believe in science and I prefer to have substantiated evidence for my claims.</p>
<p>However, I do agree that the current advertising campaign for the vaccine reinforces compulsory heterosexuality and, honestly, makes women out to be &#8220;sluts.&#8221;  If males were vaccinated too, the most virulent strains of HPV could conceivably be wiped out in a generation or two.</p>
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		<title>By: Sis</title>
		<link>http://allecto.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/gardasil-women-hurt-by-medicine/#comment-618</link>
		<dc:creator>Sis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 22:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have put up considerable medcical evidence to refute the medical establishments lies about Gardasil and cervical cancer. You can access it at Heart&#039;s under a Gardasil search. 

I cringe when I think someone may have vaccinated their daughters based on another&#039;s uninformed decision. If you don&#039;t know, don&#039;t say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have put up considerable medcical evidence to refute the medical establishments lies about Gardasil and cervical cancer. You can access it at Heart&#8217;s under a Gardasil search. </p>
<p>I cringe when I think someone may have vaccinated their daughters based on another&#8217;s uninformed decision. If you don&#8217;t know, don&#8217;t say.</p>
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		<title>By: Judy Best</title>
		<link>http://allecto.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/gardasil-women-hurt-by-medicine/#comment-616</link>
		<dc:creator>Judy Best</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 19:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For Nine Deuce, it&#039;s not, not, not your fault about not thinking it through completely, because systematically (by man-stream media) women are only being given false choices between the religious right (which theoretically protects its &quot;good&quot; women)and the masculinist &quot;progressives&quot; who want sex from loosened-up women on demand.  This has been going on since the &#039;60&#039;s.  In 1970, Leslie Tanner edited a book of essays, Voices from Women&#039;s Liberation, which describes the patriarchs&#039; tactic by the voices of many women liberationists, screwed by the left and the right.  

In our local multi-plex, for awhile Gardasil was running the ad campaign, &quot;One Less.&quot;  As in &quot;One Less&quot; woman to get cancer. But the tag line, repeated by woman after woman, was the point:  &quot;One Less.&quot;  It could hardly be clearer.  Yet it&#039;s so very difficult to face that our erasure, “One Less,” one by one, as independently thinking and creatively passionate beings is the goal of patriarchy. Particularly it’s hard to face because once you do see it, where do you go, what do you do in order to live and continue to love those like our daughters who have no place to go on this planet that’s really safe and free? 

Patriarchy has made it virtually impossible for us to live collectively on lands free of its taxes, rules, harassment, sanctions.  This dilemma is why I keep reaching for a spiritual consensus among women&#039;s liberationists to invoke the Great Mother, She Who Works in the Dark Cauldron of Dying and Living, to bring about whatever needs to happen so that those of us who do love, can love, and live here on Her planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Nine Deuce, it&#8217;s not, not, not your fault about not thinking it through completely, because systematically (by man-stream media) women are only being given false choices between the religious right (which theoretically protects its &#8220;good&#8221; women)and the masculinist &#8220;progressives&#8221; who want sex from loosened-up women on demand.  This has been going on since the &#8217;60&#8217;s.  In 1970, Leslie Tanner edited a book of essays, Voices from Women&#8217;s Liberation, which describes the patriarchs&#8217; tactic by the voices of many women liberationists, screwed by the left and the right.  </p>
<p>In our local multi-plex, for awhile Gardasil was running the ad campaign, &#8220;One Less.&#8221;  As in &#8220;One Less&#8221; woman to get cancer. But the tag line, repeated by woman after woman, was the point:  &#8220;One Less.&#8221;  It could hardly be clearer.  Yet it&#8217;s so very difficult to face that our erasure, “One Less,” one by one, as independently thinking and creatively passionate beings is the goal of patriarchy. Particularly it’s hard to face because once you do see it, where do you go, what do you do in order to live and continue to love those like our daughters who have no place to go on this planet that’s really safe and free? </p>
<p>Patriarchy has made it virtually impossible for us to live collectively on lands free of its taxes, rules, harassment, sanctions.  This dilemma is why I keep reaching for a spiritual consensus among women&#8217;s liberationists to invoke the Great Mother, She Who Works in the Dark Cauldron of Dying and Living, to bring about whatever needs to happen so that those of us who do love, can love, and live here on Her planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Nine Deuce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nine Deuce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 23:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny, I have argued about this vaccine with some people I know who have daughters, and I&#039;d always taken the tack that they ought to get it for them, because the only voices I had heard opposing the vaccine were those of the religious right. I had heard arguments that, knowing they were protected from one STI, girls who had had the vaccine would be more likely to have sex, which sounded like more of the women-who-have-sex-ought-to-face-consequences bullshit these types are often up to. I suppose I hadn&#039;t thought it through completely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny, I have argued about this vaccine with some people I know who have daughters, and I&#8217;d always taken the tack that they ought to get it for them, because the only voices I had heard opposing the vaccine were those of the religious right. I had heard arguments that, knowing they were protected from one STI, girls who had had the vaccine would be more likely to have sex, which sounded like more of the women-who-have-sex-ought-to-face-consequences bullshit these types are often up to. I suppose I hadn&#8217;t thought it through completely.</p>
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